A few clips from the documentary “The Kennedy Assassination – Beyond Conspiracy” ABC aired this program in 2003, the 40th anniversary of the shooting. It was hosted by Peter Jennings. In my opinion, it supports the most logical (as supported by evidence) view – that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in assassinating President John Kennedy on November 22, 1963.
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@Toodlem None of those 3 things I mentioned are “questionable” to anyone objectively considering evidence, and not a preconceived narrative. The WC laid out this evidence in painstaking detail in 1964. Since then, additional forensic technologies, such as the 4-D computer model presented in this video only put more nails in the coffin.
did they find the killer??
@davidemerling
Now this time, rather than me or another writer, it is you who are reducing the dignity of the discussion thread on your vid post.
Your response that “I’ll bet, when you were a little kid, you said, “You’re not the boss of me,” many times — didn’t you?” ”
… I don’t see that it added to the merit of your JFK assassination arguments.
Just IMO,
Mimusremedium (albeitly speaking from his own glass house)
@davidemerling Gee, David, I must have struck a chord. Shame that a 53-year-old man responds to a disagreement by acting like a 13 y/o. LOL
Yeah, it was Zionist Abraham Zapruder who filmed the footage of the assassination because it was Zionist Israel and the Mossad who paid for the assassination. So, to have a Zionist at the helm to further obstruct justice by having a bullshit film taken and then have it doctored should tell you who really was responsible….The Rothschild. They built Zionist Israel, and it was Kennedy himself who was going to shutdown their bank, the Federal Reserve. Kennedy executive order 11110..
@The9Nazgul Do you think there would still be discusion of this sort if it were beyond any shadow of a doubt? Ability, means, and motive are all questionable. Even the Warren Comission had problems with the latter, and the only thing certain in this case is that JFK died. I don’t want to get involved in a prolonged discussion/argument that will lead nowhere, but you speak in absolutes and that just isn’t the case. Peace.
Bullshit they didn’t even discuss the bullet that seemed to penetrate the front of Kennedy’s head. And of course your not going to find evidence or a conspiracy when it’s the conspirators who are the ones in charge of doing the investigation.
@smartalek65 Are you saying the Secret Service, FBI, Dallas Police, and the Warren Commission had “arbitrary dominion.”
The next time a police officer turns on his lights and wants to pull you over for speeding – just keep going. Don’t stop! After all, what authority does he have over you?
I’ll bet, when you were a little kid, you said, “You’re not the boss of me,” many times – didn’t you?
@smartalek65
“Arbitrary dominion?” “Absolute power”? I find this whole line of reasoning rather amusing, given the subject, JFK, was someone who arguably had more “arbitrary dominion” and “absolute power” than anyone on the planet, & yet no one here suggests that HE was “therefore corrupt.”
All this is a smokescreen. A crime was committed in which forensic & physical evidence has identified beyond any shadow of a doubt who the criminal was & that he had the ability, means & motive to do it.
@davidemerling I’ll disagree, David. Most people have a natural distrust of “authority” because of an inherant human instinct to distrust anyone who claims arbitrary dominion over them. Authority is another word for power. As an English historian (Lord Acton) noted, “power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.” That’s not simply a worldview, that’s actually how it is and has always been.
@davidemerling It’s questionable whether to trust authority. A badge, degree, distinguished reputation, age/experience, etc. no longer guarantee or bequeath integrity. In ’63, it was the way things were. It isn’t any more for valid reasons. U.S. History since this event serves as an example. Regarding the divide, I was speaking only in general terms. Agreed w/your analysis of personality archetypes & that the controversy will never end. Thanks for disagreeing w/out attacking me personally.
@Toodlem I think you’re wrong about the “divide” on this issue. Largely, I think it exists because of people’s worldview. Some people are prone to be distrusting of authority, a bit paranoid, and revel in controversy. Others tend to be a bit more trusting of authority, less paranoid, and allow the evidence to lead them instead of LOOKING for controversy. The non-conspiracy types accuse the CTers of being irrational while the CTers accuse the non-CTers of being naive. It’ll never end.
Predictable. One sided inaccurate TV fodder for a largely uneducated public who watch this for entertainment & quickly forget about it. All according to plan. “Facts” & some computer effects don’t make an investigation, but the truth is out there. The divide in opinion exists largely because of personal opinions about JFK & knowledge of the complexities of the evidence. This case won’t go away because the truth can’t be admitted officially. It would reveal too much about our political system.
@davidemerling Yes, you are correct on that for sure. I can’t argue that. But ‘old men’ with ‘old wives’ don’t make for bad presidents. Possibly opposite. People shouldn’t be elected because of Hollywood standards. If that were the case, Brad Pitt would be a good candidate. But would you want him in charge?
Americans want a royalf family too much. HAve you ever notice how hollywood portrays the ‘president”?. Michael Douglas,, Martin Sheen,, ect. never an ugly guy.
They should do a beyond conspiracy for the NWO fanatics out there.
nightmare on elm street FTW!
@xvoy2002 I read somewhere that JFK’s approval rating was somewhere in the 60 percent bracket among the populace. But that it was the military and the people in government that didn’t approve of JFK. I’m sure Dave has a response on this. And concerning the election of 1960 he simply out cheated Nixon.
he acted alone, but did he act on his own?
Part I
David NEVER DIRECTLY addresses when dr/nurse said s/he was NOT rushed and DID have time to OBSERVE rt side head wound
McClelland under oath: So I was standing there looking down intently in the wound and had really nothing to do but that because … IT DIDN’T TAKE MUCH ATTENTION to pull the retractor. And so I could clearly see what the wound looked like OVER A GOOD PERIOD OF TIME
Q. And how long were you at the head of the table?
McClelland: … between five and ten [minutes]
Part II
Peters (under oath) And the Dr. Jenkins said, boys […] you’d better step up here and look at this brain. And so at that point I DID STEP AROUND Dr. Baxter and looked in the President’s head
Mr. SPECTER – What was done with the President’s body after he was pronounced to be dead?
Miss HENCHLIFFE – Well, AFTER the last rites were said, we then undressed him
and CLEANED HIM up and WRAPPED HIM up [David, the nurse was not ‘rushed’ to save himhe was DEAD]
Part III
CURTIS- [I] did the cutdown on his leg
SPECTER-What other action did you take…
CURTIS- That’s all
SPECTER- Did you remain in the trauma room No. 1?
CURTIS- I did until he was pronounced dead
SPECTER- did you have any opportunity to observe any wounds …?
CURTIS- After I had completed the cutdown, I went around to the right side
of the patient and saw the head wound
IT’S TRUE DAVID, SO SAY IT: “YES Some DID have NONRUSHED time to OBSERVE the VISIBLE AREA of the rt/rear”
@xvoy2002 As far as Camelot is concerned – you are correct. Nonetheless, Kennedy was the first president in a long line of “old men” with “old wives.” Kennedy was young, he had a beautiful wife who was even younger. For the first time in a long time we have children sleigh riding on the White House lawn. The Kennedys appealed to many Americans for that reason alone. Beautiful, intelligent, young, rich people with young, beautiful children. They captivated young Americans.
For one thing, the entire kennedy era is a myth. It only became larger an distorted because of the assassination. Nowadays, people seem unaware that he won the election by the smallest margin in history. There was no mass support for him – that is a myth. Second his great presidency. – he wasn’t there long enough to be great, and had many mistakes. Camelot – the mythical , great presidency. – didn’t exist. It was invented by a reporter AFTER he was killed. Thats just the surface.
@davidemerling
Well David, on the JFK head wound topic, I again ‘aim’ to please. see below.
Part I
Parkland (& Bethesda) observers were right: a scalp/skull opening existed on the right/rear of the head.
DE Autopsy facts:
Fact: Autopsy report said scalp laceration went into occipital area
Fact: Autopsy x-ray shows fragmented rear skull
Fact: 2 Autopsists oathed that scalp laceration went back into occipital area
Fact: Autopsist Boswell oathed that when the scalp was moved, bone frags adhering to the scalp “detached” from the skull & that bone frag was put into place before xray